1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,570 Now let's say that group policy results or are so B doesn't give you the answers that you need in terms 2 00:00:08,570 --> 00:00:10,430 of figuring out where the problem is. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,370 And, you know, it's not a replication issue. 4 00:00:14,290 --> 00:00:15,580 Where do you go next? 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,910 Well, group policy logging is your next step in that troubleshooting cycle. 6 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:26,280 And this is where you can get some additional information from the client that's processing policy about 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,600 what might be going on. 8 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:33,660 And this can often lead to a solution, if not lead you in the right direction for a solution. 9 00:00:34,620 --> 00:00:37,230 So let's look at what's available in the box. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,880 So there is a number of logs that you can look at on the client to determine what's going on with group 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,530 policy. 12 00:00:45,470 --> 00:00:48,260 And it's unfortunately not really consistent. 13 00:00:49,210 --> 00:00:54,730 It will depend a lot on the version of Windows you're on and the client side extension that's doing 14 00:00:54,730 --> 00:00:55,510 the reporting. 15 00:00:56,410 --> 00:01:02,320 But there are essentially three logs that I typically look in when I'm looking for group policy related 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,860 events. 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,960 The first two are the Windows system and application event logs, and they will provide typically high 18 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:15,990 level events, in other words, not detailed events about a particular part of group policy processing 19 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:20,760 or a client side extension that happens to report its data up to those event logs. 20 00:01:21,770 --> 00:01:27,500 By far the most detailed you're going to get is in the group policy operational log, which since Windows 21 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:31,130 seven and next client versions has delivered more and more detail. 22 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:36,860 So Windows seven delivered a bunch of detail in the operational log around each step of group policy 23 00:01:36,860 --> 00:01:37,640 processing. 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:44,180 Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 are two and next server versions delivered that much more detail. 25 00:01:45,070 --> 00:01:50,440 And so now, you know, with current versions of Windows, the operational log is a great place to go 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,120 to get a view of what's going on. 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:59,040 And as if you'll remember from my previous demo about group policy results or group policy logging. 28 00:01:59,980 --> 00:02:03,700 I showed you that view log option that let you see the step by step. 29 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,450 And that was actually coming out of the group policy operational log. 30 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,360 So lots of details about what's happening during a processing cycle in a really step by step fashion. 31 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:19,910 So again, not all cases report up to system or application. 32 00:02:20,060 --> 00:02:21,710 So it's kind of hit and miss. 33 00:02:22,690 --> 00:02:26,590 The operational law does provide that step by step logging. 34 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:33,090 And I would say that the best combination of instrumentation that you can get is from a Windows 8.1 35 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:42,540 and next client versions like Windows ten or 11 or Server 2012 or to Windows Server 2016, 19 or 2022. 36 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,630 Admin station reporting against a Windows ten or server 2022 client. 37 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:56,450 So again, you do get a lot of detail out of older Windows clients, but for sure the the instrumentation 38 00:02:56,450 --> 00:03:01,610 and the interpretation of the instrumentation is strongest on those newer versions of the operating 39 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:02,150 system. 40 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,490 Now, in order to use the operational log, you need to know where it is. 41 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,360 And it's not altogether obvious. 42 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:16,090 But if you're in the event viewer, it's under this this subtree called applications and services logs. 43 00:03:16,090 --> 00:03:18,220 Microsoft Windows Group policy. 44 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:21,840 And this kind of shows you where it is in The View. 45 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,350 So you'll see under group policy there's a folder called operational and on the right or in the middle 46 00:03:28,350 --> 00:03:33,060 pane you see all the events and the different things that are going on in the events. 47 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,360 So this is once you find it, it's really your friend when it comes to figuring out what's going on 48 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,610 with group policy during a given cycle. 49 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:48,220 Let's look a little bit into the operational log and the event logs and see what kind of information 50 00:03:48,220 --> 00:03:49,180 we can get on them.